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Just to make it clear where I stand on this issue. 

Done during an art stream! 
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ThisAintFaust Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Edited Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist
Not sure what you think this piece has to do with the election results, but excellent job on facilitating zero discussion. :thumbsup:

Also, bravo on assuming I support Clinton I guess? Not a good assumption to make though. 
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ThisAintFaust Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The point of my piece is that the mainstream media was perpetuating the idea that the right-wingers were going to be causing violence, when in fact the lefties are the ones being violent. I'm not sure whether you are a Clinton supporter or not, but either way, you are supporting violence against innocent people. It doesn't matter if Spencer's viewpoints are reprehensible, he isn't doing anything, so he doesn't deserve to get punched. If he starts beating people and ordering large amounts of Zyklon-B, then it's time for some Nazi-punching.
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist
The ultimate facts are that small groups on both sides are causing violence. Neither group should be indicative of the whole. 

And I am not supporting violence against innocent people. Nazi ideology is intrinsically violent because it is based on racism and genocide. 

As for Spencer, I didn't bring him up. But we can play with that. He may not be out directly participating in the violence, but he is pushing ideals that will result in violence. He thinks that "At the end of the day, America belongs to white men" (from and penned an essay that asked "we should instead be asking questions like, ‘Does human civilization actually need the Black race?’ ‘Is Black genocide right?’ and, if it is, ‘What would be the best and easiest way to dispose of them?"

He may not be punching people, but he's encouraging others to consider disposing of an entire racial demographic. If that's not violent, then I think we need to seriously reevaluate our definitions. 
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ThisAintFaust Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your original post was specifically about punching Nazis, and in the description, you said, "Just to make it clear where I stand on this issue." You uploaded this on January 27, just a few days after the incident. It is clear you are talking about Spencer, and that you are okay with him getting punched.

Although Nazi ideology is inherently violent, the Neo-Nazis are no threat. Their movement is too small. If they were to start attacking people now, they would lose all credibility, and their movement would fall apart. The only way they could possibly dream of doing anything violent is if their fringe movement were to grow to the size of an actual political party, 
like the Democrats or the Republicans. But that will never happen, because they are literally Nazis. Trying to terrorize them will not bring them down. If anything, it will help them, because it will give them sympathy. The only way to stop the Neo-Nazis is to tackle their viewpoints with rational arguments, and destroy any credibility they have. And that shouldn't be too hard, since their ideology has so many flaws.
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist
I'm very glad to hear that you apparently know my intents better than I do. 

As for the power that neo-nazis have, Steven Bannon is literally the chief adviser to the POTUS. Their movement may or may not be small, but they literally have a seat in the white house. That is definitely a threat. There have been literal threats of violence from neonazi groups in the United States. 

You cannot have rational discussions with people that literally advocate for genocide. 
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ThisAintFaust Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, if I misunderstood your intents, I apologize. I hope you understand my mistake.
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Hobbyist
I mean, you came in on my post with all kinds of assumptions and started defending people that ascribe to nazi ideology. I'd definitely call that a mistake, but that's not really one I want to understand. 
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KiwiKink Featured By Owner Edited Jan 28, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
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(Just to clarify, this is punching nazis)
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2017  Hobbyist
exactly! :heart:
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phantomdotexe Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Absolutely marvelous. 
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RachWrites Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
:heart: SO MUCH LOVE FOR THIS :heart: WHEN IS THE POSTER COMING OUT :heart:
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d4phnaie Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2017  Hobbyist
:D I will 100% let you know
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